Parents decide to sell the house and retire after their 20 and 19-year-old daughters move back in, refuse to pay for household expenses, and do basic chores: ‘they only clean up when it’s absolutely necessary’

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  • AITJ for wanting to sell my home and retire because my adult kids refuse to help out?

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  • My older kid (20/college Junior) just moved back from Uni and is attending off campus now.
  • The other one (19) withdrew from Uni and moved back home this past Summer with zero goals or objectives, but, is working full time in the service industry and stays out a lot with friends and couch surfs often.
  • They each make their own car payments ($265/$279/we are consigners on the loans), they pay $40 each for their cell phones (family plan) and one pays $20 towards the water bill, the other $20 towards electricity.
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  • However, neither of them is self motivated to clean up after themselves or do chores. They were raised with structure, rules and responsibilities yet, they only clean up when it's absolutely necessary, or, when they are directly asked too.
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  • (Their primary bathroom, dishes in sink, pet care, etc.) And forget any assistance with the outside of the home.
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  • We pay someone to cut the grass and take out the trash ourselves because they literally don't seem to know how to drag the can curbside.
  • This makes us feel utterly exhausted. Having to tell adults who were raised doing chores, to actually *do* basic chores is a level of stress I could have never anticipated.
  • Hubs and I have started a serious discussion about selling our house because we already have a second home that is smaller and out of the state we live in.
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  • We want to move on with retirement and end the constant frustration, plus, the added expenses that comes from maintaining a larger home.
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  • Family thinks we would be 'abandoning' our kids in tough economic times but none of them has an answer for dealing with the laziness or ungratefulness we endure every day.
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  • Are we the jerks for wanting to finally unload our primary home and move on which would force our adult kids to manage on their own?
  • Edit to include: -We have TWO DAUGHTERS *Comments refer to us having sons, nope, should have clarified earlier* -I'm mid 50's/hubs mid 60's -Older one had been moved out for two years but asked to move back so they wouldn't have to pay $$$ or live with three or four roommates -MIL is 89 and lives in an assisted living facility nearby but is very happy and doing well; wouldn't want to displace her
  • CodUnlikely2052 NTA but have you sat the kids down to discuss your concerns and your desire to move/downsize?
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  • OP roxywalker Yes. They know we have been on the cusp of moving as soon as we got the second property. Strangely, instead of that making them feel motivated to be more responsible, or, even just appreciative of having a home to continue to live in, rent free, they actually got more surly in regards to their dispositions towards us. I think we are more disappointed in their attitudes than anything else.
  • queen_surly Good lord, no. They have jobs, and they have shown they can be responsible about things they care about. Tell them to start saving money toward first/last/deposit, and start prepping your house for the market. You didn't mention your ages, but if you are "exhausted" by taking care of an average home, please go get checked out medically. I started feeling like that in my early '60's and was beating myself up over gaining weight and getting out of shape--turns out one of my heart valve
  • OP roxywalker I think I'm more mentally exhausted than anything else, but, the constant cleaning and pet care is a bit much and moving permanently to our smaller home would curb a lot of that. -I'm scheduled for an physical next week so I'm not ruling anything out!
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  • Electronic_Wait_7500 If that's their attitude, they don't really need your help. Give them specific dates that their living areas need to be clean and ready because the realtor is coming to take pictures. Let them know you are moving forward immediately since they aren't doing their share.
  • OP roxywalker We've been scouting the real estate market in our area for comps and agents. First steps in motion...
  • Shadow4summer I'm glad we didn't get to that point. But at 20 we told our son it was time for him to move out. Having two adult alpha men in the house was not working and driving me crazy. He understood and enlisted. Best thing he ever did.
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  • OP roxywalker We've been trying to encourage our younger one to consider the military as an option but it's been to no avail. Maybe us selling the house will inspire them to consider doing so because they won't have our home to fall back on as a matter of convenience.
  • HamRadio_73 NTJ. There is no guilt here. You've done your job as parents and shouldn't spend your golden years catering to entitled children. Time for them to grow up and sometimes they need a push out of the nest. Selling the home and moving is a sound answer. (Retired couple here.)
  • OP roxywalker Checks out, and happy cake day!
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  • Tazmosis85 Its harder to get your life started than it was 30 years ago, but they dont seem like they're trying, so its time to push them out of the nest. Maybe start with suggesting they get a place together. Part of being a parent is preparing your kids to become adults, that means a bit of tough love on occasion.
  • OP roxywalker We've had early versions of this talk; especially when the younger one wasn't exactly flourishing at Uni last year. It was inevitable that they would be returning and the older one has been on standby with that but asked to live back because they didn't want to pay rent or live with four or five roommates for Junior year.
  • yournightm Let "family" take care of those childish adults!
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  • OP roxywalker My SIL's extent of helping out is letting them stay at her place for a weekend in the Summer. Thanks auntie.
  • Dangerous_Ant3260 Do you really want to move to the second home permanently? Maybe telling the adults living in your home that there is a deadline to move, and everything will have to go with them would be a good first step. Then look at what you want, and evaluate if the second location will be better for you for retirement. You may need a bit longer to ready the house for sale, and downsize for the move, but without two extra people it would be easier.
  • OP roxywalker From a financial perspective, it definitely makes more sense. Having to maintain a larger home all around is really taking a bite out of us financially, especially, now that we are retired. Unless we would be renting any of the space in our larger home it's just a financial drag at this point. We have discussed the fact that we would prefer to move to the smaller home, but they don't really seem to be forthcoming when it comes to responding to us in a way that makes us feel that th
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  • capitanbanana227 I mean, these are your kids. You're not awful for advocating for what you want, but you spend a lot of time here talking about how great you raised them. And yet, they seem to have turned out kinda It's not like they're a caterpillar for 18 years perfectly behaved and then they burst from their chrysalis as a butterfly. adult Not saying it makes you a bad person or a bad parent, but don't act like SOME of this isn't on you, they kinda just became adults so most of what that lear
  • OP roxywalker I've been questioning how this has devolved because they have turned out to be decent people, but, have zero regard for the home they inhabit, rent free. Maybe the mistake we made was not just uprooting as soon as the younger one graduated and left for Uni? TBT if neither of them had a home to move back into, they wouldn't have this situation to take for granted. That's definitely on us.
  • Dangerous_Ant3260 It will take time to downsize for the move, and declutter so you don't move stuff that you don't need, but it can be done rather quickly if you have a good plan. I live in a subdivision with 1200 to 1500 sq ft homes, lots of downsizer neighbors. You can tell they used to live in homes at least twice as big because their two car garages are packed.
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  • OP roxywalker Been decluttering for two years now. Other house is half the size and already furnished so practically everything furniture- wise and kick-knacky can go from the larger house.

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